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1968vert
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posted 07-30-2003 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1968vert        Reply w/Quote
The casting number on the engine of the car I'm thinking of purchasing reads C8AE-6015-B.How do I find out if its a 289 or 302?The seller says that the car was factory ordered with an early 1968"C" code 2 bbl/195 hp motor,but my research with the vin tells me that it came with a 2V 289.The DSO is 24 Jacksonville,Fl.,but the assembly plant is Metuchen,NJ.Can anyone tell me what this means,I'm very confused, and want to get the facts straight.
Thanx, Glenn

lreeder
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posted 07-30-2003 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lreeder        Reply w/Quote
If it's a C code it's a 289. 68 302 would be a J code (and a 4V). At that time, Ford was beginning the phase out of the 289. The only 100% acurate way will be the crank casting number. 1M is a 289, 2M is a 302.

Metuchen is where the car was built. Jacksonville is the distribution center it was shipped to.

1968vert
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posted 07-30-2003 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1968vert        Reply w/Quote
Thanx Ireeder!!

bibbs68
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posted 07-30-2003 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bibbs68        Reply w/Quote
Or, if you are as fortunate (if you wanna call it that) to have gotten mixed up in the transition to the 302, you will have a 302 block with the 289 crank, etc.

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lreeder
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posted 07-30-2003 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lreeder        Reply w/Quote
C8 casting should be a 302 block. Only difference in the 2 blocks is that the 302 has a slightly longer skirt.

SteveLaRiviere
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posted 07-30-2003 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lreeder:
If it's a C code it's a 289. 68 302 would be a J code (and a 4V).

Or an F code for a 302 2V.

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lreeder
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posted 07-30-2003 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lreeder        Reply w/Quote
Right you are. Forgot about the F code.

Fastback68
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posted 07-30-2003 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68        Reply w/Quote
It's early in the morning, my head is fuggy ... but weren't all '68 302s 4V?

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posted 07-30-2003 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere        Reply w/Quote
No. The 302 2V was a midyear replacement for the 289 2V after the 289 was phased out.

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DONNIE1
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posted 08-01-2003 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DONNIE1        Reply w/Quote
my blk # is D90E 6015-E9A..what would you call that...I say its a 351W..small block///OK...give me YOUR answer...thanks..D

phat460cid
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posted 05-08-2004 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for phat460cid        Reply w/Quote
C8OE-6015A decodes as follows:
C=1960s
8=1968
O=Fairlane/torino
E=engine, engineering
6015=????
A=289/302??? 2V or 4V
8E20 stamping decodes as:
8=1968
E=May
20=20th day

What gives with the "O" for a Fairlane/Torino? The engine has 302 4V heads on it and a C-4 tranny, and the door tag said it was put together in may of 1968 in Metuchen NJ. Was it commonplace for Ford to stick engines/trannys alotted for fairlanes/torinos during mid-year production? Or am I looking at a non-numbers matching block transplanted into a 68 GT fastback? thanks for weeding through the long post. Any help is appreciated.

whiteknight289
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posted 05-08-2004 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiteknight289        Reply w/Quote
phat460cid,
6015 is ford's part number for almost every engine block they ever made.
In Ford lingo, the prefix and suffix will tell you the application for the individual parts, the middle number is referred to as the 'basic' number. Almost all engines will have 6015 as their basic number.
Now, just because the prefix is C8OE doesn't mean it was only designed to go into a 68 Fairlane/Torino. Many car lines shared parts for many years, and Ford did not create a separate casting for each individual car line.

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phat460cid
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posted 05-09-2004 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for phat460cid        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whiteknight289:
phat460cid,
6015 is ford's part number for almost every engine block they ever made.
In Ford lingo, the prefix and suffix will tell you the application for the individual parts, the middle number is referred to as the 'basic' number. Almost all engines will have 6015 as their basic number.
Now, just because the prefix is C8OE doesn't mean it was only designed to go into a 68 Fairlane/Torino. Many car lines shared parts for many years, and Ford did not create a separate casting for each individual car line.



Knight289:

Thanks for the quick reply...now if only I can get the 460 cid out of it and return the 302 to its proper place-between the fenderwells.

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