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Topic: Header advice for my 66.What are you running?
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 1343
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 08-09-2005 12:56 AM
 
I'm getting tired of the tri-ys that I bought for my project 66 coupe.They fit on the engine great but they touch the bellhousing on the drivers side(there was a note that there might be some modifications necessary on some bellhousings) but the main problem is the clutch linkage.I've got all the correct parts now but it still doesn't allow enough movement without hitting the pipe on the header..I can probably cut and bend and modify but I've never had to do that before and I'm thinking the headers are just a poor design for a manual trans car....Anyone have any luck with a particular brand of header on a 65-66 mustang with a manual trans?I'm not after all out performance just good fit and quality.------------------
1968 mustang j-code sprint.13.69@101 306cu.in, stock ported heads,weiand exellerator,650 holley DP,hedman hedders,comp 292 Magnum cam,4-speed,8 inch 4.11 detroit locker...................................................................1966 mustang coupe project.289 4 speed,3.20 rear http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/mustangboy.html
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N266fords
Gearhead Posts: 1662
From: Sierra Vista ,Az USA
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 08-09-2005 03:08 AM
do a search for hooker super compitition headers as I know alot of people perfer those for fit and performance. keep in mind these a way more expensive than your tri-y.
Are you after fit or performance.hookers offer both.
Bruce
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Mooney
Gearhead Posts: 2357
From: Marietta, Ga
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 08-09-2005 06:23 AM
I've got Flowtechs.. for 99 dollars don't think I could go wrong. Fit great, wish I would have went for ceramic though. Guess I will when its time to replace. Lil issue with clutch linkage, bent the bar just a hair didn't want to ding the headers and A-OK from there on out.
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Scott H
Gearhead Posts: 1480
From: Chicago area
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted 08-09-2005 09:10 AM
If yo've given up on tri-y's then I would just go with the flowtech's.
It's unusual that you are having those problems, as the original tri-y's were designed for the 65-66 chassis with a 289 and 4 speed.
Either you've got some non-original parts in there or the tri-y's you have are not of good quality.
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gmliebau
Gearhead Posts: 691
From: Port St. Lucie, FL
Registered: Jan 2004
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posted 08-09-2005 09:41 AM
I've got tri-y's on my '65 289 with a C-4 and it does touch a little on the bellhousing. I got mine from Mustangs Unlimited a few years ago. I'm not sure who actually manufactured them though.
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 1343
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 08-09-2005 09:51 AM
I'm a little puzzled by the poor fit of the tri-ys as well.I bought them for the reason that they were used on the early shelby's and supposedly were very easy to install and had lots of clearance.I've pretty much tried both 65 and 66 mustang linkages brand new from a local repro place and neither works...My local speedshop recommended some flowtechs but I was unable to find a picture of them anywhere and was unsure about them with their very low price.Anyone have any pics or a link to their site?------------------
1968 mustang j-code sprint.13.69@101 306cu.in, stock ported heads,weiand exellerator,650 holley DP,hedman hedders,comp 292 Magnum cam,4-speed,8 inch 4.11 detroit locker...................................................................1966 mustang coupe project.289 4 speed,3.20 rear http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/mustangboy.html
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68 Coop
Gearhead Posts: 5847
From: Mesquite, NV. 89027
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 08-09-2005 01:48 PM
jc whitney has them in the new catalog I have. List for 105.00 for your set-up. Says something about a P/S bracket that you have to order with them, so you might give them a call. They sponser us now too, so it works out good for all.------------------
William
68 Coupe
289
Edelbrock 600
Performer Intake
Headers/X-pipe/Flowmaster 30's
C4
8"rear/2:79gears
"Restomod in Progress" Good friends are hard to find, even harder to leave, and impossible to forget.
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indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 3394
From: Senoia, G.A. USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 08-09-2005 03:53 PM
I have flowtech's ceramics - for 200 bucks. fit was perfect (but then I have a 68 which has more room). The quality was not perfect, it had a pinhole in one of the welds at the collector but the muffler guy ground it and touched it up with the welder then used a silver high temp paint on it. I didnt want to go to the hassle of sending them back to summit. They look good, and the heat is lower now than with plain iron manifolds!------------------
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Mooney
Gearhead Posts: 2357
From: Marietta, Ga
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 08-09-2005 05:18 PM
Pictures of the flowtechs should be available at holleys website
http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?target=partdetail.asp&autofilter=1&Ntt=flowtech&N=4294908331+4294908282+4294924707&part=BIG%2D12102FLT&autoview=sku&Ntk=KeywordSearch
http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?Ntt=Flowtech+65+Mustang&x=0&y=0&Ntk=KeywordSearch&DDS=1&searchinresults=false&N=0&target=egnsearch.asp
http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?Ntt=Flowtech+65+Mustang&x=0&y=0&Ntk=KeywordSearch&DDS=1&searchinresults=false&N=0&target=egnsearch.aspnot sure whether that'll bring it up, but goto summit, do a search for flowtech, and it'll show you a thumbnail. http://www.holley.com/types.asp?type=391 Thats to holleys website. Hope that helps.
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 1343
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 08-09-2005 07:51 PM
Thanks for the links.Those are the regular type 4 tube headers,anyone know what the other type looks like,sort of a tri-y design but not exactly(sorry I forget what they are called).I have an old set of hedmans here that I tried and they fit with zero clutch linkage problems,they don't go anywhere near the bellhousing and are fairly easy to install so I may use them.I still might check out the flowtechs if the ceramic coating is good quality.------------------
1968 mustang j-code sprint.13.69@101 306cu.in, stock ported heads,weiand exellerator,650 holley DP,hedman hedders,comp 292 Magnum cam,4-speed,8 inch 4.11 detroit locker...................................................................1966 mustang coupe project.289 4 speed,3.20 rear http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/mustangboy.html
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johnmustang
Gearhead Posts: 6748
From: British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 08-09-2005 11:10 PM
I have Tri-Y`s on my 65 fastback 289 C-4 with power steering, and with the drop bracket I have no issues anywhere with clearance. Nothing is touching anywhere and even when I stand on it, there is no touching at all.------------------
JOHN
65 FASTBACK 2+2
87 TAURUS WAGON
03 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4 SHORT BOX
Member: PACIFIC COAST MUSTANG ASSOCIATION
Member:Vancouver Island Mustang Association
M&M #1710
65 FASTBACK
2003 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 1343
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 08-10-2005 12:14 AM
These headers would have worked great with a C-4,just not with the manual trans.The clutch linkage comes down right on top of the one pipe and severely limits its forward travel.In fact I could not even install the rod from the equalizer bar to the clutch fork because the equalizer had to be tipped back so far.It's a shame because they looked like very nice quality headers and were very easy to install and remove.  ------------------
1968 mustang j-code sprint.13.69@101 306cu.in, stock ported heads,weiand exellerator,650 holley DP,hedman hedders,comp 292 Magnum cam,4-speed,8 inch 4.11 detroit locker...................................................................1966 mustang coupe project.289 4 speed,3.20 rear http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/mustangboy.html
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SkinnyMan
Gearhead Posts: 916
From: Tupelo, MS - USA (CA temporarily)
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted 08-10-2005 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by mustangboy:
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This has nothing to do with the thread BUT Why do some of the threads seem to run VERRRRRYYYY wide on the screen. Happens with my PC at work and my Mac at home.------------------
SkinnyMan
Tupelo, MS Thank you, Thank you very much!
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 1343
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 08-10-2005 04:53 PM
I don't know it fits in my screen ok  ------------------
1968 mustang j-code sprint.13.69@101 306cu.in, stock ported heads,weiand exellerator,650 holley DP,hedman hedders,comp 292 Magnum cam,4-speed,8 inch 4.11 detroit locker...................................................................1966 mustang coupe project.289 4 speed,3.20 rear http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/mustangboy.html
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mustangs68
Moderator Posts: 27681
From: Hampton Va MCA#39406 M&M #12 Member Mustang Club of Tidewater
Registered: May 99
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posted 08-10-2005 05:10 PM
length of the link (in blue)
me too I use 800*600 res.Sam
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 1343
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 08-10-2005 11:15 PM
I ordered some ceramic coated flowtechs today.Hope they fit good  ------------------
1968 mustang j-code sprint.13.69@101 306cu.in, stock ported heads,weiand exellerator,650 holley DP,hedman hedders,comp 292 Magnum cam,4-speed,8 inch 4.11 detroit locker...................................................................1966 mustang coupe project.289 4 speed,3.20 rear http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/mustangboy.html
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