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Topic: Anybody Using These Aftermarket Mounts?
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joesgt281
Journeyman Posts: 47
From: Katy, TX
Registered: Nov 2005
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posted 01-20-2006 11:17 PM
 
I'm considering one of the following two systems.
The RMP design offers adjustment but I wonder if the adjustment features may work loose with time.
The TCP design has no adjustability but is more expensive. It does have 3 frame bolts over the RMP 2-bolt design.
Anybody have history with either of these two?
Are these too harsh for street use?Ron Morris Performance from Mustangs Plus, $200:
 Total Control Products design from Autoworks International, $250
 [This message has been edited by joesgt281 (edited 01-20-2006).]
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silverblueBP
Journeyman Posts: 44
From: Bend, Oregon
Registered: Oct 2005
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posted 01-21-2006 01:09 PM
There is movement in the TCPs. I can't remember how much though.
I like them on my car, you do feel more vibration through them but Hey, that's what I wanted.
I don't think that they're too harsh for street use. When cruising I've never found it to be annoying.------------------
Mark Sellers
1966 Mustang 2+2 set up for Open Track and Vintage Racing.
Details here: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/667160
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 48752
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-21-2006 02:59 PM
Another alternative is the polyurethane mounts NPD sells, part number 6038-7P for small blocks, $114.95/pair. Seems like a better bang for your buck, unless you need the adjustability.------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 - '70 Mustang Convertible - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 XL
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joesgt281
Journeyman Posts: 47
From: Katy, TX
Registered: Nov 2005
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posted 01-22-2006 10:14 AM
quote:
Originally posted by silverblueBP:
There is movement in the TCPs. I can't remember how much though.
I like them on my car, you do feel more vibration through them but Hey, that's what I wanted.
I don't think that they're too harsh for street use. When cruising I've never found it to be annoying.
Thanks Mark!
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joesgt281
Journeyman Posts: 47
From: Katy, TX
Registered: Nov 2005
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posted 01-22-2006 10:18 AM
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
Another alternative is the polyurethane mounts NPD sells, part number 6038-7P for small blocks, $114.95/pair. Seems like a better bang for your buck, unless you need the adjustability.
I've considered those, but since I have a 67 with unique "one-year-only" frame brackets, I would have to buy replacements for those. So when I add the cost of that to the NPD mounts, the cost is actually as much as the two options above, both of which don't require the original frame brackets.
I'm finding that 67s are really one of the weirdest damn years for finding parts, LOL!
Thanks
Joe
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mellowyellow
Gearhead Posts: 8198
From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 01-22-2006 11:26 AM
Looked through 4 catalogs. NPD, MU, CJ, VaMust. None of them differenciate between 67 and other years. Most of them have 66-72 V-8 with some differences, like 68 cvs(marvelous!) But have read about the difference in Mustang Mags.
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 4777
From: Phoenix, Arizona
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 01-22-2006 11:41 AM
Or, you could go the real cheap route... through-bolt the stock mounts! You'll need use of a drill press, but drill a 1/2" hole through each isolator and use a 1/2" Grade-8 hardware. I used a nyloc nut and cinched them down, but not so much that they compressed the rubber. Still allows for some movement, but limits the movement of the motor to almost nothing. ------------------
1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" 12.58/110 on street tires, more to come  All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html [This message has been edited by V8 Thumper (edited 01-22-2006).]
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joesgt281
Journeyman Posts: 47
From: Katy, TX
Registered: Nov 2005
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posted 01-22-2006 12:34 PM
Thanks Mellow, but the suppliers will tell you they can give you a 67 style mount, but they're really unaware of the difference on this unique year requirement. My plight is that the 67 mount is no longer actually available and the suppliers try and pass off their mounts as "one style fits all". See my research below.And Thumper...that's a cool trick for safety, but my problem is that I can't get replacement 67 mounts. Here's the results of my research: By hawkrod on FoMoCo.com:
'67 Mustang SB motor mounts are special one year only parts. The rubber insulator sits at a different angle than the 68-70. the best thing to do is change the frame bracket to a 68-70 small block frame bracket. a side note is that the 67 style small block mounts were actually used on all 67-70 convertibles as well. if you hold a 67 and a 68 small block frame bracket side by side you will see why the insulator is different. there is one bolt hole drilled in a different spot which causes the frame bracket to sit at a shallower angle which is why the insulators are different. any good parts place will list 67 insulators as they are available but the 68's are cheaper and make it worth swapping the frame mounts (plus you can get urethane mounts for 68-70). you can force the 68 insulators onto the 67 mounts but they will fail earlier. it is easy to tell if you have the right parts as the bolts will slide right in with no effort. now having said all of that if your shock towers have moved at all the angles will no longer match up properly and complicates all of the assembly. if somebody tells you the parts are the same they have not looked it up in a Ford parts book or have compared the parts themselves. the national parts catalog (NPD) does not list the mounts correctly but the paddock catalog does. hawkrod The following was posted by David Suesz over on FoMoCo.com and gives a clear picture of what Hawkrod was talking about:
It shows that the holes in the 67 frame brackets are higher than on a 68 and later. To maintain the same crankshaft centerline, the 67 mounts have to be "shorter" than the later ones. Unfortunately these unique mounts are not widely available. And if you put a mount from a later model on a 67, then the engine sits higher. It's my belief that the Prothane mounts are made for the later frame brackets. [This message has been edited by joesgt281 (edited 01-22-2006).]
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MidLifCrisis
Gearhead Posts: 673
From: Frederick County, MD
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 01-22-2006 10:20 PM
How true. I had the same problem when building the motor on my '67 vert. When I installed the replacement mounts , they were splayed wider apart, and would not reach the attaching points on both sides of the engine. I ended up using the old ones. So far, so good. Charlie
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