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Topic: t5 swap
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kewljay223
Gearhead Posts: 473
From: Long Beach, California
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted 01-26-2006 08:03 PM
 
i am planning on doing this within the next couple months and i am trying to get the parts. right now i have a top loader in it with the hydraulic bearing. so i need a new clutch system. either cable or hydraulic. there is a kit that comes with everything i need for the swap including a cable clutch. but it says nothing about a slave cylinder down by the tranny. is this true? is there no slave cylinder needed? seems to me it would be very difficult for a cable to do on its own. and also, how is the cable connected to the fork? does it turn back around towards the front of the car so it can pull the fork back? i just cant picture any of this in my head and i would like to have an idea of what i am going to need to do. thanks.by the way, if anyone would like to buy my toploader clutch system, i will be selling soon.... 
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trashline
Gearhead Posts: 2230
From: Levittown, Pa
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 01-26-2006 10:27 PM
doesnt say anything about a slave cylinder b/c thats for a hydrolic system. my 88 TC has a slave cylinder for the clutch system which mounts right on the bell. for a cable system you do not need it. the cable mount right on the end of the fork it does all the work for you. I dont have a pic but that would best explain how it works. this is going on a v8 correct? b/c the kits for a 6 cylinder car are junk. the adapter plate they sell is to thick.------------------
88 thunderbird TC 2.3L
Gillis at 18 psi, walbro 255 lph fuel pump, Kirban at 39 psi, 3.73 8.8" rear, rebuilt head, brand new IHI 66 mustang 200ci 3 speed
Holley weber two barrel, msd 6A, 3.5 gears, 3.03 v8 three speed trans. 68 Fairlane 289 w/ auto
rusting away motor is going in the mustang 79 f150 300 3 onda tree
awaiting a new transmission
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65darkhorse
Gearhead Posts: 1282
From: east coast
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 01-26-2006 11:24 PM
t-5 swap article
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Tom G
Gearhead Posts: 1069
From: Bethlehem, Pa USA
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 01-27-2006 06:19 AM
quote:
Originally posted by 65darkhorse:
t-5 swap article
Modern driveline is the kit I used!
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67 Mustang F/B 302 GT-40X FMS engine RPM Air Gap 650 Holley DP Crane 1.7 roller rockers, Edelbrock Performer Nitrous, Dynomax ceramic headers WCZ rated-T5, cable clutch Flows X Pipe 3.89 9". Clearwater Aqua GT Clone Vintage wheel works 40 series 16X8 225 front 255/50 rear drag radials 308 RWHP@5800rpm 300 tq NA 385rwhp 380 w 75 shot 13.11 @111mph
92 VERT triple black 5 speed, 88 GT (FiveOfastback's ride)GT 40 X Track Heat, BBK headers X pipe 5 spd Red and Silver
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68 Coop
Gearhead Posts: 5847
From: Mesquite, NV. 89027
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 01-27-2006 07:19 AM
quote:
Originally posted by kewljay223:
by the way, if anyone would like to buy my toploader clutch system, i will be selling soon....
Well, I am going standard soon too, but I want something that might eventually see around 350/400hp. Would that be a problem??? If you can, shoot me an e-mail, I'm interested.------------------
William
The easiest way to find something lost, is to buy a replacement. 68 Coupe
289
C4
2:79 rear gears [This message has been edited by 68 Coop (edited 01-27-2006).]
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BornInAFord
Gearhead Posts: 610
From: Bend, OR, USA
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 01-29-2006 01:31 AM
quote:
Originally posted by kewljay223:
i am planning on doing this within the next couple months and i am trying to get the parts. right now i have a top loader in it with the hydraulic bearing. so i need a new clutch system. either cable or hydraulic. there is a kit that comes with everything i need for the swap including a cable clutch. but it says nothing about a slave cylinder down by the tranny. is this true? is there no slave cylinder needed? seems to me it would be very difficult for a cable to do on its own. and also, how is the cable connected to the fork? does it turn back around towards the front of the car so it can pull the fork back? i just cant picture any of this in my head and i would like to have an idea of what i am going to need to do. thanks.
The newer T5 clutch fork is a "pull" system, as the fulcrum (pivot point) is on the far side of the input shaft--in other words, the throwout bearing and the cable mounting point are on the same side of the pivot. The older style you have on your toploader is a push style. The pivot is between the throwout bearing and the clutch linkage point, so a push is needed on the end of the clutch fork to pull against the throwout bearing. There is a complicated z-bar arrangement to reverse the direction your foot is going when pushing in the clutch. Make sense? Most later-model clutches use a bellcrank-type pressure plate instead of the three-finger variety. This requires much less force to activate (compared to the "iron left leg" vintage heavy-duty systems  ), so you can use a comparitively small cable to activate the clutch. If you have a hydraulic clutch with your toploader now, JMC has a good hydraulic system for the T5 with lots of exhaust clearance. Some of the cable systems have limited exhaust clearance. I'm using a Ron Morris cable for my T5 conversion on my 66 (and am happy with it after a few mods), and have also heard good things about the Modern Driveline cable conversion, too. But... If I wasn't worried about stock appearance, I'd definitely look into the hydraulic system if I was purchasing today.
Daniel
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