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Topic: couple of questions
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rmousir
Gearhead Posts: 1124
From: Amelia, Ohio
Registered: May 2003
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posted 03-03-2006 10:52 PM
 
Hey All, I am poking away at my project. Couple of questions for you. 1.
My '73 dist will not fit in the '95 motor. Upon close inspection the shaft that goes down to the oil pump is ever so slightly smaller in diameter on the '95 dist than the '73. I am thinking that I could gently grind the shaft on the '73 dist down a little in size. Has anyone else done this or encountered this problem? If so thoughts or suggestions?
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Also I switched the alum gear on the '73 dist to a steal gear. The steal gear does not have a pin hole at all on it. I figure it fits on so tight that it must not need one. I got it lined up to the same distance but wanted to know if I should drill the pin hole? My gut tells me no.
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Anyone have suggestions on how to get the idler bearing out of the '95 motor so I can install it with the c4 auto tranny? I have a couple of ideas but there has got to be a easy way. Thanks very much for any and all assistance. Richard. ------------------
rmousir
'66 Mustang
Mustang ~ 04-05
[This message has been edited by rmousir (edited 03-04-2006).]
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rmousir
Gearhead Posts: 1124
From: Amelia, Ohio
Registered: May 2003
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posted 03-04-2006 10:16 PM
bump.Thanks.
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 8777
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 03-04-2006 10:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by rmousir:
Hey All, I am poking away at my project. Couple of questions for you.
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Also I switched the alum gear on the '73 dist to a steal gear. The steal gear does not have a pin hole at all on it. I figure it fits on so tight that it must not need one. I got it lined up to the same distance but wanted to know if I should drill the pin hole? My gut tells me no.
Thanks very much for any and all assistance. Richard.
aint sure about the other 2 questions but your gut was wrong on this one. ------------------
mike r
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81 capri-302-7.25 @93mph 1/8
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69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 2814
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 03-05-2006 12:29 AM
quote:
Originally posted by rmousir:
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Anyone have suggestions on how to get the idler bearing out of the '95 motor so I can install it with the c4 auto tranny? I have a couple of ideas but there has got to be a easy way.Thanks very much for any and all assistance. Richard.
You're talking about the pilot bushing in the rear of the crank, right? I've heard of folks filling the inside with grease then driving a dowel into the hole which will cause the grease to force the bushing out. The last time I had to do that I spent a few hours grinding it out because the motor was already in the car.
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rmousir
Gearhead Posts: 1124
From: Amelia, Ohio
Registered: May 2003
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posted 03-05-2006 01:36 AM
quote:
Originally posted by capri man:
aint sure about the other 2 questions but your gut was wrong on this one. Capri Man
So you think I should drill a hole through the side of the gear for the pin? My thought was that if it was needed it would have been made that way. It is from MustangsPlus and is a Ford Racing product. 69 Sportsroof not really sure about the grease thing. fill up the space with grease and use a dowel the size of the hole to push in the grease so the grease will push the bearing out? Never heard of that before. Maybe I will try it. Anyone else?? Other ideas??
Thanks very much for any and all comments, ideas, and suggestions.
Richard.
aka rmousir. [This message has been edited by rmousir (edited 03-05-2006).]
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mellowyellow
Gearhead Posts: 8198
From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 03-05-2006 08:08 AM
Oh Man! Keep your hands off that gear and let a pro drill it for you. Had the same deal, using a 66 dist in an 89 roller motor. It fit right in. The gear??? well I took it to a good machine shop, guy said comeback in the late afternoon. Picked it up next AM and guy mentioned that he had to chuck it up with care as it goes through on a weird angle.He fitted it with a roll pin and it was perfect.
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Ryan Wilke
Gearhead Posts: 3237
From: Stanton, Michigan, zip 48888
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 03-05-2006 09:07 AM
#1, I can't provide any expertise, sorry. #2, I agree with the others, the new gear needs a hole and roll pin installed; I wouldn't try doing the mod, I'd have a machine shop drill it. #3. Yep, I've used the grease and dowel method - it works. The hydraulic pressure developed when you hit the dowel will go behind the bearing and push it out. The dowel OD needs to be as close as you can be to the ID of the bearing. It can be messy though - flying grease - wear some safetyglasses... Ryan 
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rmousir
Gearhead Posts: 1124
From: Amelia, Ohio
Registered: May 2003
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posted 03-06-2006 08:33 AM
Just wanted to let everyone know the update.I pulled the gear off and drilled it no problem. I have a nice drill press that took care of that. Put the gear back on and it was perfect. I do have to say that the dist not fitting was a bit of my own creating. I flatten the end of the dist shaft a bit with a hammer taking off the dist gear. I carefully filed it back into shape and it went back on no problem. LOL. I should have done more reading before I tired to tackle that job. LOL. I did it to my self. Oh well. I am sure that it won't be the last time. Now I have not gotten to that bearing on the back side yet but I will. Other than that I still have to put on the motor mounts and the fly wheel and the motor is ready to go back in the car. I will post a pics next weekend when I have the engine bay painted up. I did want to ask about the fuel line that goes from the fuel pump to the carb. I have seen those nice pretty ones at pep boyz etc. Do they work well? I figured I would go with my old slightly dinged up bent line but those trick ones look nice. Thoughts??? Thanks. Richard.
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buening
Gearhead Posts: 317
From: Decatur, IL
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted 03-06-2006 12:19 PM
For question 1, are you sure the distributor is a 73 302? You are aware that the 351w distributors are different and the shaft is larger in diameter. If you have access to a 302 oil pump shaft, stick it in the end of the dizzy and see if it fits. Also, the base of the dizzy is larger on a 351w than on a 302 and the base wont' go through the hole in the block. Also, if you are wanting to go to electronic ignition look for a duraspark distributor from a 302 car. They are also available at autozone at a decent price.------------------
1970 Grabber Blue Mach 1 H-code
1970 Fastback
2003 Torch Red Mustang [This message has been edited by buening (edited 03-06-2006).]
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Mooney
Gearhead Posts: 2357
From: Marietta, Ga
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 03-06-2006 12:29 PM
Don't they make a puller for the pilot bearing? Just a slide hammer with two hooks on the end?
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rmousir
Gearhead Posts: 1124
From: Amelia, Ohio
Registered: May 2003
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posted 03-06-2006 01:17 PM
quote:
Originally posted by buening:
For question 1, are you sure the distributor is a 73 302?
Yep it sure is. I checked the fit a couple of times and found that after I flatten up the end of the shaft that it would not even fit in the '73 302 that I took it out of. That is when I started to look at what I had done. As for the elec dist set up I am running the Pertronix set up. I hear a lot that the Pertronix doesn't last. If I get to that point I will go with your suggestion. Mooney
I whish there was a puller. I would buy one no problem.
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Scott H
Gearhead Posts: 1480
From: Chicago area
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted 03-06-2006 05:09 PM
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=5469This puller would get the job done 
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Ryan Wilke
Gearhead Posts: 3237
From: Stanton, Michigan, zip 48888
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 03-08-2006 07:40 AM
Richard, If you decide to get the puller that Scott H located or similar one, come back and let us know how well it worked for ya.... if it works slick, maybe I'll break down and get me one. Thanks!
Ryan
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gjz30075
Gearhead Posts: 105
From: Roswell, Ga.
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 03-09-2006 12:37 PM
I've used that puller Scott H shows and it worked just ok. The little tangs on any of the puller legs are just too small or too rounded. The better puller (although I haven't used the Harbor Freight one) would be this one:
http://da.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do
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gjz30075
Gearhead Posts: 105
From: Roswell, Ga.
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 03-09-2006 12:40 PM
Sorry, the link doesn't want to work. Type in 'pilot puller' in the keyword search.
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rmousir
Gearhead Posts: 1124
From: Amelia, Ohio
Registered: May 2003
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posted 03-09-2006 01:25 PM
That puller looks pretty good. I may have to stop a pick it up. I still have not pulled the idler bearing yet.Richard.
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