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68 S-code GT
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From: Sayreville, NJ, US
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 04-03-2006 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT        Reply w/Quote
I see these guys doing it all the time. Here is a manual brake support with a power brake pedal being sold as ready to install. I’ve confronted them in the past about their items and I get a remark like “this is how we got it!” or “it will work either way!”.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4628076020&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1

They had a Tach cluster up for auction that had a 6k Tach and a 120 MPH speedo in it with the incorrect wiring on it. Sent them a message and they responded with the usual “this is the way we got it and it will fit in a Shelby”.

427Fastback
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Posts: 530
From: N.Vancouver.B.C
Registered: Jan 2005

posted 04-03-2006 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 427Fastback        Reply w/Quote
I have seen their stuff before and agree that they misrepresent their products and are very miseading with there ads..

Cory

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68 Fastback 427MR 4 spd.Deluxe interior,8000 tach,140 speedo,am/fm,tilt.

68 S-code GT
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From: Sayreville, NJ, US
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posted 04-03-2006 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT        Reply w/Quote
They also often set a high reserve and rope a sucker in some how.

I bet this one is set at $500 or above.

[This message has been edited by 68 S-code GT (edited 04-03-2006).]

Scott H
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From: Chicago area
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posted 04-03-2006 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott H        Reply w/Quote
Isn't he the one referred to as "Fast Freddie" and had a problem misrepresenting a HiPo carb? Maybe that was on the HiPo Exchange.

zieber
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Posts: 172
From: Central Coast, CA, USA
Registered: Mar 2006

posted 04-04-2006 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zieber        Reply w/Quote
I almost bought this pedal set but I don't care for their reserve so I'm building my own.

I bought a transmission off of these guys but I haven't installed it yet.

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1968 Mustang 428,
not original, $1200

mellowyellow
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Posts: 8198
From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000

posted 04-04-2006 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow        Reply w/Quote
Had power drum brakes in a 68. Used the 68 Power disc pedal, drilled the manual pedal support in the appropriate place, higher up, and used. Never a problem.

68 S-code GT
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From: Sayreville, NJ, US
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posted 04-04-2006 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT        Reply w/Quote

I never had to drill a hole for the power brake pedal. You would have to knock or cut off those pressed nuts (not sure what else to call them) so that the studs for the booster will slide in. The ones the bolts that go through the master and the firewall bolt into.

Why not just call it what it is! A manual brake pedal support with a clutch pedal and a power brake pedal.

[This message has been edited by 68 S-code GT (edited 04-04-2006).]

427Fastback
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posted 04-04-2006 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 427Fastback        Reply w/Quote
I like where they have the return spring hooked.There is actually a bushing that goes between the spring and bracket to stop the spring from squeeking..

Cory

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68 Fastback 427MR 4 spd.Deluxe interior,8000 tach,140 speedo,am/fm,tilt.

Fastback68
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From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines
Registered: Jul 99

posted 04-04-2006 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68        Reply w/Quote
I hear the frustration here, but what can you do? The reputation of your stereotypica used car salesman is well earned!
I provide a humble service for uninformed buyers here by checking out cars for them. I know of two 67 GTs (they both have GT gas caps, that's it!), a 71 Boss, and two T-birds with 428s still being advertised here as the real deal after I demonstrated to the sellers that the cars are plain Jane clones and the engines are 390s. They don't give a damn.

Tom G
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Posts: 1069
From: Bethlehem, Pa USA
Registered: Nov 2001

posted 04-04-2006 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom G        Reply w/Quote
These are the guys that rip people off with their "RESTORED" consoles they sell for ridiculous prices or reserves. I wouldn't touch their stuff with a 10ft pole. Godd post ED!

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my6T65.0
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From: Ohio, USA
Registered: Apr 2006

posted 04-05-2006 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for my6T65.0        Reply w/Quote
Oh God, that's the infamous Fast Freddy from MustangMasters in Florida. Run away, run away! (to quote Monty Python)

Blacksmith
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Posts: 604
From: Front Royal, Va., USA
Registered: Feb 2006

posted 04-05-2006 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blacksmith        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastback68:
The reputation of your stereotypica used car salesman is well earned!

Almost as bad as the reputation of used boat salesmen (so I've heard).

"A sucker born every minute and two to take him"

[This message has been edited by Blacksmith (edited 04-05-2006).]

buening
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Posts: 317
From: Decatur, IL
Registered: Mar 2005

posted 04-05-2006 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for buening        Reply w/Quote
Also may i warn others, seems Freddie is gobbling up all of the power brake pedals for automatic cars, trimming the pedal pad, and sticking them in with a clutch pedal for a complete power disc 4 speed setup. At one point he was high bidder on 6 automatic power brake pedals. The clutch pedals are all the same, whether it is power/non power or disc/drum. Gobbles all the parts up, attempts to fix them up (horribly), and then finds a sucker on ebay to pay quadruple what he paid a few weeks ago just cause it has a paint job on it. Smart, but not very honest.

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1970 Grabber Blue Mach 1 H-code
1970 Fastback
2003 Torch Red Mustang

Blacksmith
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Posts: 604
From: Front Royal, Va., USA
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posted 04-05-2006 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blacksmith        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by buening:
...but not very honest.


Too bad that there's so much of that out there.
People out after the "almighty dollar".

68 S-code GT
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posted 04-06-2006 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT        Reply w/Quote
I have to say that I over describe my parts I put on there and the people are very happy when they get them. I think I’m killing my end price with this but it makes me feel better.

HHStang
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posted 04-06-2006 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HHStang        Reply w/Quote
It is Fast Freddie. "Run Forest-Run"

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1972 429 Mach/CJ Vert Clone
2004 F150 4x4 Crew FX4


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68 S-code GT
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posted 04-07-2006 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT        Reply w/Quote
I told them this before I started this and this is the answer I got today but they still haven’t changed the description.

Hey, you are correct, thanks

zieber
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Posts: 172
From: Central Coast, CA, USA
Registered: Mar 2006

posted 04-07-2006 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zieber        Reply w/Quote
How do I know my transmission is actually a RUG-AE2 and not an imitation?

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1968 Mustang 428,
not original, $1200

68 S-code GT
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posted 04-08-2006 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT        Reply w/Quote
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4624028801&category=10076

Here is a Tach cluster that looks like they just slapped together. It has the standard cluster wiring with a 120 speedo and an 8K Tach with the red line. All in a 67 housing.

68 S-code GT
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From: Sayreville, NJ, US
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posted 04-08-2006 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zieber:
How do I know my transmission is actually a RUG-AE2 and not an imitation?


Does it have the large input and output shafts?

http://www.4speedtoploaders.com/

What are the casting numbers? Date and engineering numbers.

[This message has been edited by 68 S-code GT (edited 04-08-2006).]

zieber
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Posts: 172
From: Central Coast, CA, USA
Registered: Mar 2006

posted 04-10-2006 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zieber        Reply w/Quote
This is the 4-speed/power brake pedal set I built out of my auto pedal support. I paid about $270 for parts including a brand new brake pedal.

Do you think Fast Freddie would hire me?

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1968 Mustang 428,
not original, $1200

Fastback68
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From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines
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posted 04-10-2006 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68        Reply w/Quote
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4624028801&category=10076
quote:
Here is a Tach cluster that looks like they just slapped together. It has the standard cluster wiring with a 120 speedo and an 8K Tach with the red line. All in a 67 housing.

I'm confused by that one for another reason. Looking closely, I see that the full beam indicator, just beneath the blanked clock housing, is just a circle, not a horse. I recall seeing them like that, repro, in the NPD catalogue, and Rick explained that they were wrong - they should all have horses. (Or that's how I remember it.)
Yet the cluster housing here looks genuinely old.
Were some full beam indicators actually just circles, or is this a repro that's been "aged"?

[This message has been edited by Fastback68 (edited 04-10-2006).]

427Fastback
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posted 04-10-2006 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 427Fastback        Reply w/Quote
67 highbeam indicator is a round (dot)light
68 is a running horse...

since when do Shelby's use standard interior parts..(camera case finish)

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68 Fastback 427MR 4 spd.Deluxe interior,8000 tach,140 speedo,am/fm,tilt.

Fastback68
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From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines
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posted 04-11-2006 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68        Reply w/Quote
Yup, I recall now, Rick had received a bunch of repro 68 gauge housings with the 67 high-beam indicators, and somehow a pic of this faulty part found its way into the catalogue. As far as I can judge from my latest PDF catalogue, it's still there.

zieber
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Posts: 172
From: Central Coast, CA, USA
Registered: Mar 2006

posted 04-11-2006 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zieber        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 68 S-code GT:
Does it have the large input and output shafts?

What are the casting numbers? Date and engineering numbers.


The input is 1 3/8" and the output is 31 spline.

Case says C8AR 7006-D W2 and it looks like the date code is 9-H or H-6.

Extension housing says C7OR 7A040-A W2 with a date code of K2 9.

What do you make of it? Thanks.

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1968 Mustang 428,
not original, $1200

68 S-code GT
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posted 04-29-2006 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT        Reply w/Quote
Well I got to place the face with the name. At the spring Carlisle Swap I saw who Fast Freddie was. I have delt with him in the past and to be honest with you I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him. I did check out his manual trans power brake pedals and they were converted from automatic trans pedals. When I asked him what was up with the pedals He said that this was the way he got it.

sigtauenus
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Posts: 3969
From: Va Beach
Registered: Jun 2000

posted 04-30-2006 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus        Reply w/Quote
As far as the gauge cluster goes, looks like the speedo from a J-code 68 (like mine), 120 mph with trip odometer, genuine Shelby tach with the redline, and a standard 67 bezel.

Personally, I've written to him about his 69-70 fold down seats he sells for $1800 with a bunch of dime a dozen 65 parts thrown in the mix. Its amazing that he has the feedback that he has with the reputation he has amongst those who know better.

mellowyellow
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Posts: 8198
From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000

posted 05-01-2006 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow        Reply w/Quote
Fear not, Freddie has Jesus on a front tag on his truck. He's born again. He has good writer's.LOL! He does have some hard to get stuff. If Freddie spent as much time being above board as he does lying, etc. he'd no doubt, be furthur along. Give him credit for one thing, he's a hard worker. Remember him in the 80's at shows in Fl. Looked like a kid, but he worked shows and displayed his stuff. He got the name Fast Freddie, running around to other seller's buying them out! An ol' show trick. Went to a Nat's show in Tampa, several years ago, and saw the same 48 Ford Cpe street rod get peddled four times!

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