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Topic: installing the P/S to M/S adapter
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68 Coop
Gearhead Posts: 5847
From: Mesquite, NV. 89027
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 04-26-2006 05:53 PM
 
I'm ignorant on a lot of this, so can someone walk me thru doing this to my car. The destructions that came with it, well they don't show enough pics for me to really understand. I feel like a dumbass, but I want that pump off the engine tonight if possible. Thanks for any time and replies you might give.------------------
William
The easiest way to find something lost, is to buy a replacement. 68 Coupe
289
C4
2:79 rear gears
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sprcoop
Gearhead Posts: 780
From: Tucson, AZ usa
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 04-27-2006 01:24 AM
William, I hope someone gets back to you. I may be following in your footsteps. I have about a 2 drop leak per drive that if I can't get rid of it for a reasonable amount of money I will probably order the same deal. I will be watching this post with interest. TTT
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68 Coop
Gearhead Posts: 5847
From: Mesquite, NV. 89027
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 04-27-2006 02:48 AM
I've got some instructions here, just thought someone that has did it might lend a hand. It's more about the HP now, I got the leak fixed forever, but when I drove the car without the pump hooked up,  . I'm gonna look at these instruction again, just gotta test the new Alternator I just installed. Thanks for the reply.------------------
William
The easiest way to find something lost, is to buy a replacement. 68 Coupe
289
C4
2:79 rear gears
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BillDavenport
Journeyman Posts: 3
From: Mesa, Arizona, USA
Registered: Apr 2006
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posted 04-27-2006 12:03 PM
I'm also hoping for some good info here to. I just got the "kit" for a 65 from NPD and the instrutions are cryptic at best. No pictures at all. Any help would be appreciated.
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indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 3394
From: Senoia, G.A. USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 04-28-2006 01:42 PM
I did this about 2 years ago.
Im not trying to be rude but I thought most of it was simple. Perhaps I had better instructions - I remember some pictures.You need to remove the power steering ram, pump, lines and the control valve. the control valve is the part you are replacing with the new component. the control valve is the part that goes on the centerlink and is what the pitman arm is trying to move left and right when you steer. The hardest part of the whole operation is the separation of your ram from the center-link and your pitman arm from the control-valve. I used a lot of brute force and stupidly ended up damaging the control valve. You really should use some kind of ball joint remover (dont hammer away on the threaded end of the taper - it mushrooms and then youve ruined it). Once its all apart you thread the new component on and tighten everything up. Its possible you may need some alignment done too. Power-steering cars are set up with a bunch of castor (to help them self center), and will be difficult to steer without the help of the ram. Its also easy to get the steering off center with this conversion (so the car doesnt track straight with the steering wheel held in the center position). Im sure some magazine must have an article on this somewhere. trick is finding the issue. ------------------
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68 Coop
Gearhead Posts: 5847
From: Mesquite, NV. 89027
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 04-28-2006 01:52 PM
Thanks Phil, I'll go thru my back issues of Mustangs and Fords and see if I can find something.
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68 Coop
Gearhead Posts: 5847
From: Mesquite, NV. 89027
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 05-03-2006 11:59 AM
Phil, do you remember if you had the frame on stands, or can I do this from it sitting on ramps??? I should have my rebuild kit tomorrow, so I'll try and tackle it all Saturday if possible. Thanks for the memories .------------------
William
The easiest way to find something lost, is to buy a replacement. 68 Coupe
289
C4
2:79 rear gears
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sprcoop
Gearhead Posts: 780
From: Tucson, AZ usa
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 05-03-2006 12:23 PM
William, I hope your project goes well. I am curious as to what you did to fix the P/S leak? Mine looks like the hoses had been over tightend and scored the flare fitting so when I put new hoses on it leaked. From reading on the Internet (the gospel) the only fix is to get the whole system recondition/replaced to get rid of the scored parts. Was that why yours was leaking? Thanks.
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68 Coop
Gearhead Posts: 5847
From: Mesquite, NV. 89027
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 05-03-2006 12:57 PM
My hose kept getting into the Header. I don't know if you want/need any of these parts, but they're off my car this weekend, come Hell or high water .------------------
William
The easiest way to find something lost, is to buy a replacement. 68 Coupe
289
C4
2:79 rear gears
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indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 3394
From: Senoia, G.A. USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 05-03-2006 02:22 PM
I did mine on stands, but I guess you could do it on ramps, the problem is if you need to turn the wheels for any reason. I personally dont like ramps, I dont even own any, but thats another story.You need a way to get at the joints holding the ram on, and the pitman arm. Come to think of it I may not have even jacked it up at all, I can reach a lot of stuff under the car because im skinny... ------------------
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68 Coop
Gearhead Posts: 5847
From: Mesquite, NV. 89027
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 05-03-2006 03:29 PM
I'm 160 wet, but I want to have some leverage room too . I'll hang it off stands, those ramps scare me too, to tell ya the truth. Thanks Phil, it's just a matter of doing it, and I know I can, just hesitant about it.
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sprcoop
Gearhead Posts: 780
From: Tucson, AZ usa
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 05-03-2006 04:49 PM
Ok, I gotta ask for educational purposes. Why are ramps questionable? Mine are rated at 12,000 pounds and have about 1500 pounds of car sitting on them at any given time. I have spent many hours under my car on ramps and never gave it a second thought. I can't say that for when it is on jack stands.
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John Z
Gearhead Posts: 506
From: Morgantown, WV
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 05-07-2006 10:43 AM
I don't see any problem with proper ramps either. I was under a car once when the shear pin on a safety stand demonstrated for me why "cheap" and "safety" are poor words to combine. Those stands went in the trash, along with the shorts I was wearing.
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68 Coop
Gearhead Posts: 5847
From: Mesquite, NV. 89027
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 05-07-2006 12:38 PM
I haven't messed with it since I am getting my gears and Trac-Loc installed tomorrow. It's about 40 miles to get to the shop, so I don't want to do anything to blow this chance. My luck with this car is good about working on it, it just sometimes takes me 2 to 3 times longer than normal, since most of this is my first time doing these things ever. This new set-up, minus the steering pump, outta raise the giggle factor about 10 or so. ------------------
William
The easiest way to find something lost, is to buy a replacement. 68 Coupe
289
C4
2:79 rear gears
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