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Topic: problems with the installation of a MC bar
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BornInAFord
Gearhead Posts: 610
From: Bend, OR, USA
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 04-27-2006 03:15 PM
 
I am in the process of replacing the straight Monte Carlo bar in my 66 V8 coupe with a curved one due to interference with the new taller distributor. The bolts don't match up. I can get the upper bolts to match, but then the lower bolt holes (the vertical ones) don't match. I can get the lower two to line up, but the upper are about 3/8" off. Anyone have this problem? I've already let the towers relax, and I've already got an export brace. And I already had an MC bar on, so I know one fits.This seems to be a mismatch of how the holes are drilled, since this isn't a question of fitment (it mocks up fine). It's a question of the 8 bolts not matching their respective holes. I can see several options--first I can enlarge/redrill the MC bar holes (although I can see where that allows for undesirable movement) or I can use a BFH and prybar to bully the bar in place. I can also return it or I can re-bend it. Any suggestions?
Daniel
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jww_289
Journeyman Posts: 71
From: Victoria Australia
Registered: Feb 2006
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posted 04-27-2006 04:06 PM
I would return it, with MC bar I have the lower 2 holes and the rear top hole fit existing bolts, I had to drill the inner fender for the front top.In your case if the bottom 2 line up and not the rear top (and vica-versa)then it is wrong or been mis-drilled. Just my 02 cents worth allowing for the exchange rate  ------------------
1966 fastback
- 4v 289
- T10 4 speed
- Pony interior
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Blacksmith
Gearhead Posts: 604
From: Front Royal, Va., USA
Registered: Feb 2006
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posted 04-27-2006 07:49 PM
Maybe different manufacturer=different bolt hole pattern.
If they are close, drilling out the existing holes in the inner fenders shouldn't hurt if you torque the bolts down good.
Our old Army motto was "Hammer to fit, paint to match"...Worked on an M60A3 Tank.
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-27-2006 08:29 PM
I would return it and try another one.------------------
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs HOOD HACKERS DELIGHT!
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BornInAFord
Gearhead Posts: 610
From: Bend, OR, USA
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 04-28-2006 01:40 AM
Since it is only around $25 for a replacement one, I think I might keep it and try some mods on it. I'm thinking of a removeable, heim-jointed one like Cory's (427Fastback) might be a sweet setup... I've got some aircraft-type pins I can use, and can put down a fair weld, so it's worth playing with. What do you think???
Daniel
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427Fastback
Gearhead Posts: 530
From: N.Vancouver.B.C
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted 04-28-2006 10:36 AM
I never found a out of the box M/C that would fit properly.To many variables in the cars and the bars,and usually a bitch to get in and out.Thus the need to design my own system.A little tip for those who choose to make their own adjustable one.Dont use Heim joints.Because the ball rotates in all directions you can not lock down the bar in a fixed position (it will rotate on the bushings)I make my own adjustable ends with fixed bushings .You really only need to adjust the length,not misalignment of your mounts.. Cory ------------------
68 Fastback 427MR 4 spd.Deluxe interior,8000 tach,140 speedo,am/fm,tilt.
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BornInAFord
Gearhead Posts: 610
From: Bend, OR, USA
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 04-28-2006 11:46 AM
Thanks for the tip, Cory! That's something I hadn't considered since I thought about it with a straight bar. With the curved one, you want no movement of the curved part!
Daniel
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SNAKGUTS
Journeyman Posts: 81
From: Panama City Florida, USA
Registered: Feb 2006
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posted 04-30-2006 05:26 PM
Cory,What do you use to build your own M/C? I gave up on trying to buy one that fit. They don't make one that fits a 67 with a 5.0 complete with A/C. I like the adjustable idea. I'm in the process of building one that peaks over the top of the distributor. Making it adustable would be sweet. JimBob ------------------
67 Coupe, Father bought new, Ford Racing 5.0L Crate motor (E303cam/X303heads) GT-40 EFI, Cobra Electronics, Tremec 5 speed. Maier Racing hood scoop/fender flares/suspension
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427Fastback
Gearhead Posts: 530
From: N.Vancouver.B.C
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted 04-30-2006 05:43 PM
I generally make the bars from one inch OD stainless roughly .100 wall and have them custom bent to the shape I want,or bend them myself.I made some extra's of the last one.(same one in pics of my car)The fender brkts are made from aluminum or stainless depending on the theme and look the customer wants. If i can thread the tubing I do otherwise I Tig weld a nut on the ends.I machine all my own adjustable ends but you could buy fixed rod ends from some where and build around those.QA1 shocks has a good assortment of rod ends.Or a marine shop that sells sail boat stuff as they use them for rigging. All my bars are different as I build them to suit the shape of the air cleaner and to match your engine comp. If you want to know more or want some help feel free to e-mail me.. Cory ------------------
68 Fastback 427MR 4 spd.Deluxe interior,8000 tach,140 speedo,am/fm,tilt.
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roger
Gearhead Posts: 533
From: ontario, canada
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 04-30-2006 06:39 PM
Cory:
If i was to give you the lengths of my stock firewall to shock tower braces could you make me up some trick braces?
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427Fastback
Gearhead Posts: 530
From: N.Vancouver.B.C
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted 04-30-2006 11:33 PM
E-mail me and we will figure something out.Cory ------------------
68 Fastback 427MR 4 spd.Deluxe interior,8000 tach,140 speedo,am/fm,tilt.
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SNAKGUTS
Journeyman Posts: 81
From: Panama City Florida, USA
Registered: Feb 2006
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posted 05-01-2006 09:48 AM
Cory,What's your email address. Would you put the adjustments on the sides or just one in the middle? JimBob
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427Fastback
Gearhead Posts: 530
From: N.Vancouver.B.C
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted 05-01-2006 10:17 AM
Click on the little icon at the top of your post.The ends are adjustable..Cory ------------------
68 Fastback 427MR 4 spd.Deluxe interior,8000 tach,140 speedo,am/fm,tilt.
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