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Topic: $100 66 Coupe, should I go for it?
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spf150
Journeyman Posts: 5
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Registered: May 2006
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posted 05-16-2006 11:34 PM
 
Cruisin the local junkyard and came accross a 65/66 mustang, I think it's a 66. I really don't know ANYTHING about these cars so I seek some advice here. The junkyard owner said he'd take $100 for it, it's got a straight 6 and a manual tranny and NO TITLE. I went back and took pictures and looked for the VIN tag and could not find it. So if I find the VIN how hard is it to do a title search and get a replacement/salvage title? If there is no VIN cna I get a custom VIN made up? I will be given a bill of sale, do I need more than that to get a custom title? I'm not looking to make a show stopper or a drag racer out of it I just want it to look decent in about a year and be somewhat driveable. Here's the pics: http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/spf150/100_5033.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/spf150/100_5034.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/spf150/100_5035.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/spf150/100_5036.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/spf150/100_5037.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/spf150/100_5038.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/spf150/100_5039.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/spf150/100_5040.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/spf150/100_5041.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/spf150/100_5042.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/spf150/100_5043.jpg Looking thru driver'd fender http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/spf150/100_5044.jpg Trunk, pan solid enough to hold tranny http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/spf150/100_5045.jpg Somebody told me to look for a tag on the back of the driver's door, it's gone and somebody told me to look on the driver side front apron for a tag but I couldn't find it. Thanks for any help in advance and soory for the long post
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spf150
Journeyman Posts: 5
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Registered: May 2006
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posted 05-16-2006 11:35 PM
Almost forgot, if I get it I will be towing it home on a dolly, the steering wheel has been pulled so if I put another one on will I be able to turn the front wheels straight or does the steering column lock?Thanks
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honeyburst
Gearhead Posts: 846
From: Nashville, TN, USA
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted 05-17-2006 12:07 AM
First off....welcome to M&M !!!
It looks like a '65 to me....the first # of the vin should be a "5" for a 65 or a "6" for a 66...
For a hundred bucks....I'd (personally) jump on it....QUICKLY....do you know how hard it is to find a classic 'stang in a yard ???
The only question is how much time/money you want to put into a car....anything is "restorable" if you're willing to put forth the effort....this one actually looks to be in better shape body-wise than the one I just bought
To answer your other question, no, the steering column does NOT lock.
The only thing else I can say is you've found a GREAT group of people who always seem more than willing to offer their help and knowledge....
Best of luck,
Bryan------------------
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1973 Convertible, 1965 A Code 4spd coupe, Past: 1969 GT, 1967 6cyl coupe, 1968 coupe
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www.geocities.com/my73conv [This message has been edited by honeyburst (edited 05-17-2006).]
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68 Coop
Gearhead Posts: 5847
From: Mesquite, NV. 89027
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 05-17-2006 12:50 AM
For 100 bucks, buy it. If it taks 5 years to restore, big deal, it's a great deal.By the way, Welcome to M&M, the best site going for Mustangs. Stick around if you decide to buy the car, you'll find a WHOLE bunch of good, knowledgable people here, who love the challenge of keeping these cars going. [This message has been edited by 68 Coop (edited 05-17-2006).]
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Darryl Eichenlaub
Gearhead Posts: 124
From: Buckley,Wa.
Registered: Dec 2005
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posted 05-17-2006 01:50 AM
Welcome to M&M, You have stumbled on a find, but this car will take a lot of effort to bring back to the living. You know where your skill level is, if you going to pay someone else to do all the rust repair you might take that money and find a better car (a Mustang of course). If you decide you have the skill , the time, and the money, these are great cars to restore with so many parts avaiable. Any question you'll have about the restoration can be answered here. Good luck.------------------
Darryl Eichenlaub
1965 Mustang Coupe restomod 289,c4,body and interior mods.
1956 F-100 460,c6,9" major body mods, on going project.
1967 Mustang Fastback, father/son project 5.0,5spd,9".
1975 F250 4x4 Highboy 390,4spd,35",custom paint.
2002 Mustang v6,5spd, daughters college ride.
2001 Ford Escape, Wifes grocery getter.
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sprcoop
Gearhead Posts: 780
From: Tucson, AZ usa
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 05-17-2006 02:03 AM
It's a 66' by looking at the "3 fingers" on hte left quarter. One place the VIN would be is on the left, top, fender inside the engine compartment and it is inside about a 4" cutout of the fender stamped onto the body. Is that confusing enough?
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bob6364
Gearhead Posts: 447
From: griswold,ct usa MCA#59447
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 05-17-2006 07:26 AM
In CT an unregistered car cannot be towed by dolly it must be on a trailer,not sure if its the same in your state.
When you goto pullit look around the area for bits and pieces of your car and toss them inside.
I would say buyit,you can easily get your money back if you change your mind.
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rmousir
Gearhead Posts: 1124
From: Amelia, Ohio
Registered: May 2003
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posted 05-17-2006 07:34 AM
That is a 1966 coupe for sure. For a $100 bucks I would buy it if I had a place to put it. You will have a lot of work to do on it but if you are up to it then you have come to the right place. As for being new and not knowing anything about these cars. Everyone starts somewhere. Welcome and hope you keep us up to date on what you do with that car. Richard.
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senzstang
Gearhead Posts: 530
From: perry, oh, usa
Registered: May 2002
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posted 05-17-2006 08:21 AM
It is hard to tell from the pics but that sure looks like 5 lug front drums and an 8" rear. If so, it has either been converted (6 cyl are 4 lug on rims) or is was a v8 at one time that a 6 has been put in. All that said, that looks like a heck of a lot of work. It would be a great parts car for another project for $100. Just my $.02 Phil
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 8777
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 05-17-2006 08:55 AM
heck you could part it out on e-bay and make some $$$$!!  ------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
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Blacksmith
Gearhead Posts: 604
From: Front Royal, Va., USA
Registered: Feb 2006
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posted 05-17-2006 09:16 AM
Welcome to M&M.For $100.00 you can't go wrong.
All it takes is money & sometimes LOTS of patience to fix them up... I'd go for it in a heartbeat! ------------------
66 GT350H clone
302, Holley 600, Tri-Y headers, Flowmasters, power front disc brakes.
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pmhvps
Gearhead Posts: 734
From: Burlington,ON,Canada ,in the heart of the Golden Horseshoe.
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 05-17-2006 11:55 AM
Like all have said, for a C note, get a trailer and get it home. It is a '66 and it has a 8" rearend. Do not delay. Parted out it is 4x the money.
Mike.
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lonewolf
Gearhead Posts: 419
From: Colorado; M&M #3117
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 05-17-2006 01:38 PM
For $100, it's worth dragging home, stripping it to nothing, and getting the shell bead blasted. Once you get all of the crud off, you will have a good idea of what needs to be done.Rick ------------------
Lonewolf
1968 Coupe in Pieces
99 1/2 F250
FFR MkIII
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johnmustang
Gearhead Posts: 6748
From: British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 05-17-2006 01:39 PM
Yes------------------
JOHN
65 FASTBACK 2+2
87 TAURUS WAGON
03 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4 SHORT BOX
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65 FASTBACK
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JCQuinn@work
Gearhead Posts: 998
From: Lakewood, CO, USA
Registered: Jun 2001
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posted 05-17-2006 02:16 PM
Regarding to title problem, call your local state DMV. The rules on titling vary wildly from state to state so you should get your info locally. Here in Colorado there is a process for getting a VIN issued, but as I say it varies from state to state.John
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spf150
Journeyman Posts: 5
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Registered: May 2006
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posted 05-17-2006 04:28 PM
Thanks for all the help and the warm welcome guys!I'm probably gonna go for it so I have a couple more questions. There's no steering wheel, is it a standard type wheel that I can put a bolt on and just torque it down? I don't need the correct wheel for now I just need to straighten out the wheels so I can get it home. Also, where is EVERY single place on this car that the VIN number is located? Did any of the numbers in my pictures mean anything? I've talked to several cops and the DMV about getting a custom VIN made up and they all had absolutely no clue what I was talking about. I live in PA, has anybody else done this in PA before? It seems like alot of hassle. That's about all for now, I'm sure I'll think of something else.
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mellowyellow
Gearhead Posts: 8198
From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 05-17-2006 04:33 PM
Walk straight ahead-don't look back. The only salvage seems to be a badly pitted 8" rear. No title/vin is NOT GOOD.Weighing the $100 purchase against the cost of making it driveable and making it legit, doesn't seem like a good move. Re salvage, there doesn't seem to be enough to make it worthwhile. Again... selling parts off that car??? If that was the plan, would be better to part it there, take the rear and whatever scrounge is left, and leave car behind. If NO numbers are present there is nothing to register. If you are dead serious about buying it, by all means, have the vin#, If there is one, run by the DMV through the Nat'l Theft Bureau. Even though it's junk, it's an invite for trouble if it is stolen. There are cases of cars being seized after being AWOL for 15 years or more!! There is NO statute of limitations on stolen property. Don't mean to dramatize a $100 purchase, but it's problems without a title Your costs could be a way more than the purchase price. Bet there a few before you that walked away.
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gmliebau
Gearhead Posts: 691
From: Port St. Lucie, FL
Registered: Jan 2004
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posted 05-17-2006 04:36 PM
The VIN's located in 3 different places on the 64 1/2's to 66's. There's the typical inner fender location that everyone sees, the there is another under the inside of the fender directly behind the visible one. It's just outside of the hood hinge. The 3rd is on the other side in the exact same location. Obviously, they should all be the same number. Hope this helps.
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honeyburst
Gearhead Posts: 846
From: Nashville, TN, USA
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted 05-17-2006 04:40 PM
as stated before....the vin will be on the left (driver's side), pop the hood and look where the fender bolts to the inner fender about 1/2 way to the nose....that's the easiest place to find it....there are a couple of others, but they involve taking parts apart......
to straighten the wheels, I'm not sure which steering wheel will fit....I would think if you were winching it up onto a trailer you might be able to push the wheels straight...not sure about that one 
never heard of a "custom" vin before....but if you take photos of that place on the fender and oh yeah! Is the VIN data plate still on the driver's door ? should be on the "end" of the door, above the latch...the vin will be there also....
in Tennessee, a notarized bill of sale that has the VIN on it will get you a title.....
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mustangs68
Moderator Posts: 27681
From: Hampton Va MCA#39406 M&M #12 Member Mustang Club of Tidewater
Registered: May 99
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posted 05-17-2006 04:50 PM
Welcome to M&M...100 Bucks..I think the guys have voiced my opinion
Sam
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83j20
Gearhead Posts: 304
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Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 05-17-2006 09:23 PM
A VIN can be issued by the state. A friend had bought a '67 Stang in WI and there were serious problems when he went to transfer the title. All front sheetmetal had been replaced as had the driver's door. There was no original VIN anywhere on the car and the orginal title was gone as were the original owners. He wound up having the state inspect the vehicle, paid a fee for a title search, then another fee for the new VIN when the state was satisfied there was no fruad or theft involved. He now has a title with the state issued VIN.Here in Minnesota, we have "Re-contructed Vehicle" and "Specially Contructed Vehicle" titles issued by the state. You go through the process which includes an inspection and they issue the VIN and a plate to be affixed to the car. Then you get a title.
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Aussie XAXB
Gearhead Posts: 131
From: North Olmsted, Ohio
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 05-17-2006 09:38 PM
The way it appears it doesn't look like it will hold together if you pull on it. It looks too far gone. You will spend 2 times what it would cost to get a car in better condition and fix it up.My 2 cents.
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spf150
Journeyman Posts: 5
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Registered: May 2006
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posted 05-18-2006 06:39 AM
After doing some more research PA has the specially/reconstructed vehicles program also but it's a PITA. If I can't find a VIN I'm just gonna walk away, if I can I'll have the state police run the VIN and see if it comes up stolen or anything else bad and go from there.Thanks again for all the help guys.
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spf150
Journeyman Posts: 5
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Registered: May 2006
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posted 05-18-2006 06:42 AM
Almost forgot on the passenger fender the number 762 is stamped onto it about halfway up the fender near where it bolts to the inner fender. Is this of any significance?
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Blacksmith
Gearhead Posts: 604
From: Front Royal, Va., USA
Registered: Feb 2006
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posted 05-18-2006 07:42 AM
quote:
Originally posted by gmliebau:
The 3rd is on the other side in the exact same location.
Passenger side VIN # is just under the lip of the fender. I think I read in Mustang Monthly that if you loosen the bolts & slide the fender outwards it'll be visible. Keep us posted on what you find out.
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gjz30075
Gearhead Posts: 105
From: Roswell, Ga.
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 05-18-2006 09:51 AM
spf150, those three and four digit numbers you see on the sheet metal pieces are simply date codes, plant and shift, for that particular piece. No real significance except for 100 point, numbers matching, types of restorations.
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cynot65
Gearhead Posts: 1258
From: New York
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 05-28-2006 10:24 AM
I'm thinking you could part it out and make more than $100
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DidgeyTrucker
Gearhead Posts: 1813
From: Greenbrier, TN USA
Registered: Oct 99
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posted 05-28-2006 04:24 PM
It looks like a donor car to me. I wouldn't try to bring it back, unless the VIN showed a "K" for the engine code (271 HP 289 4V) It has the five lug V-8 running gear that could be swapped into a much better six-cylinder body for an upgrade.I would bring it home and strip the parts and throw away the body (ugh) if you have room and time. Look for a better body that's not rusted like this one. Tracy ------------------
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65 fastback
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posted 05-28-2006 11:58 PM
RUN DON"T WALK AWAY ! Unless you plan to part it out and try to make a few bucks. This is definitely a parts car and a 6 cylinder at that. You will spend MUCH MORE MONEY in getting the body repaired and replacing the missing parts than if you spent thousands of dollars on a nicer car.
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Aussie XAXB
Gearhead Posts: 131
From: North Olmsted, Ohio
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 05-29-2006 12:09 AM
What parts? It's a basket.
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crawlerchris
Journeyman Posts: 11
From: Space Coast , Florida
Registered: Jun 2006
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posted 06-03-2006 06:56 PM
That's a old vinyl top car , Id be surprised to find someone had swapped a V8 suspension to a 6 cyl car and not the engine so Id lay odd's it's a C code that someone stuck a 6 clyinder into .
IMO , and Im a rust junkie (just look at my mess of a car) it's a parts car .
It will need a new roof or some hardcore patching and another vinyl top put over the mess . For 100 bucks , Id buy it and cut it up for parts . That or make it a hardtop convert car
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