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honeyburst
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From: Nashville, TN, USA
Registered: Mar 2006

posted 06-12-2006 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeyburst        Reply w/Quote
took my wife to a Dr. appointment this morning...on the way from there, I decided to get on the interstate...first time the new 65 coupe has been over 50mph....got up to around 60 and hit a rough section of highway...thing bounced so much I thought it was going to go sideways !!!....I know the left tie rod end needs to be replaced and the steering (manual) needs to be adjusted to take out a little play, but everything else looks good....it's got new tires and new front shocks.....
It's been a long time since I've had this body style Mustang...is this normal or could the tie rod end cause that kind of problem or should I be looking for something else ???

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Blacksmith
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From: Front Royal, Va., USA
Registered: Feb 2006

posted 06-12-2006 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blacksmith        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by honeyburst:
thing bounced so much I thought it was going to go sideways


My old 68 coupe did the same thing when I got it back in 82.
I ended up replacing upper & lower ball joints, tie rod ends & new shocks to fix the problem.
Rough gravel roads around Colorado Springs really trashed the suspension.

honeyburst
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From: Nashville, TN, USA
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posted 06-12-2006 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeyburst        Reply w/Quote
well, maybe when I replace that tie rod end that will correct the problem....hopefully

Fastback68
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From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines
Registered: Jul 99

posted 06-12-2006 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68        Reply w/Quote
If it doesn't fix it, start checking for threads on bump steer etc. I now have a new philosophy on the steering of 65-70 Stangs. If everything is NEW and exactly as original, the steering will be just about acceptable.

honeyburst
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From: Nashville, TN, USA
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posted 06-12-2006 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeyburst        Reply w/Quote
bump steer ???....does manual steering have this ???...what is it ???

senzstang
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From: perry, oh, usa
Registered: May 2002

posted 06-12-2006 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for senzstang        Reply w/Quote
How is the alignment?
A bad alignment can cause the high speed behavior you describe.

Bumpsteer is a hot topic with people who have done the Granada swap and are running big rims and tires (16" 17" rims. I can't even begin to explain it but it has to deal with how your alignment changes when the front end unloads. It should not be a problem with stock suspension.

Phil

honeyburst
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posted 06-12-2006 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeyburst        Reply w/Quote
*whew*....stock suspension, stock rim/tire sizes......I'm in the clear there

Blacksmith
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From: Front Royal, Va., USA
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posted 06-12-2006 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blacksmith        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastback68:
If everything is NEW and exactly as original, the steering will be just about acceptable.

My 65FB is WAY better than I ever remember the 68 coupe being after replacing all the front end parts.
Maybe it's the Shelby parts up front that make the difference??? Handles like a slot car instead of a snow saucer on ice...

senzstang
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From: perry, oh, usa
Registered: May 2002

posted 06-12-2006 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for senzstang        Reply w/Quote
This should help understand bumpsteer. A very nice website.

http://home.bresnan.net/%7Edazed/bump

Phil

gmliebau
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From: Port St. Lucie, FL
Registered: Jan 2004

posted 06-12-2006 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gmliebau        Reply w/Quote
I can't believe that you guys don't like the feel of floating down the highway getting blown around by passing vehicles. hehe. Mine feels just like an old Cadillac.

Thanks for the link senzstang. I'll be needing to refer to it when I continue the work on my car.

honeyburst
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From: Nashville, TN, USA
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posted 06-12-2006 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeyburst        Reply w/Quote
that site really helped....pretty easy to understand also....THANKS !
gave the specs to our alignment guy, going to give it a shot tomorrow

honeyburst
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posted 06-12-2006 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeyburst        Reply w/Quote
"floating" isn't the problem...it's when you hit a bump in the road and it feels like a mark-48 detonated off your bow

bob6364
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From: griswold,ct usa MCA#59447
Registered: Dec 2004

posted 06-12-2006 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bob6364        Reply w/Quote
Gee....sounds like it needs a good set of shocks.....

exlocal
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From: hacienda hts., CA, USA
Registered: Dec 2004

posted 06-12-2006 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for exlocal        Reply w/Quote
Improperly inflated tires, too hard or too soft of a combination of both.

Loose front hubs on front bearings. This happened to my 67 coupe. It literally jumped a few inches to both sides at freeway speeds. Repacked the front bearings and took out the play cured that problem.

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honeyburst
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posted 06-13-2006 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeyburst        Reply w/Quote
new front bearings, new front tires, new front shocks.....going to adjust the steering gear when I get home tomorrow night and replace the tie rod end this weekend....along with an alignment....hopefully that will cure it
was going to take it to see my dad this weekend, but DAMN that would be a long drive at 45 mph *lol*

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