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indyphil
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Posts: 3394
From: Senoia, G.A. USA
Registered: Jul 2002

posted 10-21-2004 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil        Reply w/Quote
OK, well you all know I am shopping around for stroker kits. Well I decided to look into the TMD ebay shop. Problem was the kit I liked had a HAWKSRACING crank and I have heard a couple of bad things about them. So I figured since the same vendor also sells eagle cranks that maybe he would substitute the HAWKSRACING crank for a regular eagle crank (go from a forged cheapo, to a name brand nodular crank)

I dont need a forged crank, and would rather have a nodular crank thats in good shape than spend another $400 on a Hawksracing crank that comes out of spec.

So I sent an email. Wanted you all to see it. Judge for yourselves. Just wondering if SCAT would be interested to know that folks are selling cheapo cranks and rods "same as scat".

He didnt offer to substitute and didnt want to take the time to thank me for my interest. So I will take my business elsewhere even if it costs me a little more. can you imagine trying to get your money back from this guy if something went wrong? Im not even going to dignify him with a response, Ive seen politicians answer questions better than this guy.

Its quite possible that Hawksracing get their forged blanks from the same place as Scat, eagle, and CAT. But its the machining work that counts. If I need to spend a bunch of money getting stuff cleaned up to make it fit then its not really a good deal.

(His reply)
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We have HAWKSRACING cranks and rods same as scat.

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Ball [maimailto:Ottouk_77@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:29 AM
To: dee$@themustangdepot.com
Subject: 331 stroker kit

Hi,
Im interested in a 331 stroker kit.
I noticed the item 7927711720
I like the Mahle Pistons and would also like the
H-beam rods. But I would prefer an eagle crank. I
would like to buy a kit, but dont want it balanced.

Do you think you can do something with an eagle or
SCAT crank? and could you tell me who makes your H
beam rods?

Thanks in Advance
Phil Ball

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'68 coupe, '66 289 C code
engine, edel 600cfm carb, performer intake, dual exhaust http://www.geocities.com/ottouk_77/68mustang.htm

scottford351
Gearhead

Posts: 151
From: reedsville ohio usa
Registered: May 2003

posted 10-21-2004 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scottford351        Reply w/Quote
I can testify that HAWK cranks are not the same casting as SCAT because I have had both. The 393 HAWK crank that I have, has MAJOR piston to counterweight clearence issues and the casting is rough as a cob.
Needless to say I didnt use it. I consider my purchase an educational experience.

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91 LX 398w street/bracket 6.67@105 1/8 60FT 1.51

73torinoqcode
Gearhead

Posts: 515
From: Buffalo,NY,USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted 10-21-2004 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 73torinoqcode        Reply w/Quote
I have also heard some Stay Away stories with these cranks. Buy a Scat if you can afford it.

indyphil
Gearhead

Posts: 3394
From: Senoia, G.A. USA
Registered: Jul 2002

posted 10-22-2004 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil        Reply w/Quote
yep, I went with a SCAT kit.
Decided I didnt need a 750hp H beam rods for a plain jane 72 block that people say is good to about 500.

I got the scat 9000 crank
Scat I beam rods with the ARP cap screws (rated to about 600hp)
And SRP forged pistons

Also got a 28oz balancer/damper
and a 28 oz 157 tooth flex plate

I still need to get rings and bearings
a balance job
finish hone the bores (with a torque plate)
main bearing studs and line hone
Plugs
Paint

Then its assembly time

Im hoping to get AFR185 heads
a Comp cam roller style have not decided how big yet
rockers (thinking comps magnum steel kind) and pushrods
RPM air gap intake

Its finally more than just a block on an engine stand.

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'68 coupe, '66 289 C code
engine, edel 600cfm carb, performer intake, dual exhaust http://www.geocities.com/ottouk_77/68mustang.htm

67Coupster
Gearhead

Posts: 206
From: GA
Registered: Oct 2001

posted 10-22-2004 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 67Coupster        Reply w/Quote
Sounds like the motor I built for my '67, all the same except for the pistons. I used Keith Blacks.

Wondering how much the AFR 185's are limiting my power? Currently it runs 6.90's in the 1/8 with a 4 speed and 4.56 gears.

You will enjoy it that's for sure

James

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