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king Stroke
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posted 01-18-2006 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for king Stroke   Click Here to Email king Stroke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a 408w bored to 30 tow with a trich flow 236/248 cam, elbrock victor jr heads and victor jr manifold and 1.7 racker and a holly 1150 cab.

what do i need to get more power for my all out race car.
i am thinking about going a 4.250 stroke do u thing that it is a waste of time or is that a good move

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clevelandstyle
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posted 01-18-2006 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clevelandstyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to M&M.

First, how much power are you looking for?

Or... What ET are you shooting for?

You already have a decent package, but you curtainly could use more cam.

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king Stroke
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posted 01-19-2006 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for king Stroke   Click Here to Email king Stroke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i donot have any special et in mind its just that every body in my country have a chevy i need to pump horsepower in my car to show then that a ford can do the same job as a chevy engine

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posted 01-19-2006 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
before adding more cubes, which would definately make more power, i'd maybe try to extract some more get up and go from the current cubes

what is the lift of the cam?
what's compression at?
what kinda trans are you running?
what car is it in? Weight?
current trap MPH?

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king Stroke
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posted 01-19-2006 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for king Stroke   Click Here to Email king Stroke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well i have a
236/248 duration with 595 litf
13.1 compression
power glide trans
3400 lb
not timed yet just trying to make i work at max cause i have a lot of critics who think i should do chevy 454

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kid vishus
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posted 01-19-2006 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The car is too heavy for a glide to work properly. The car would be at least 3 tenths quicker with a C4.

Cam duration is a little small for that size of motor, especially for 13-1 compression. I would think something around 255 @ .050 would wake it up a bunch, especially with that big ole honkin carb on top of it.

Unless you change heads and/or cam, adding more stroke wont do a darn bit of good. It might add a couple of pound of torque down low, but it alone wont make any more horsepower.

As for doing the 454 chevy, my 402W with old fashioned iron cleveland heads will embarrass a whole bunch of them.

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posted 01-19-2006 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man   Click Here to Email capri man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
also, weight (or the lack of it)is horspower, can you lose any anywhere?
free horspower!!

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king Stroke
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posted 01-19-2006 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for king Stroke   Click Here to Email king Stroke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well people say the powergide give more speedf than a c4. i am thinking about putting it to tube chassis to take off weight.
the cam i have has good low end power would i get more with the cam u recommend

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posted 01-19-2006 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JJonesy99   Click Here to Email JJonesy99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey I hate to jump in on someone elses topic but I have similar questions, sorry King Stroke.

I also have a 408w, victor jr heads, air gap manifold, 825 demon, 10.4 compression, cam specs: .238/244dur & .555/575 lift, C4, weighs 3200lbs. I'm running 11.94 @ 5800ft elevation. My qustion is, will a bigger cam and victor jr manifold wake up my set-up? remember this car is a daily driver.

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king Stroke
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posted 01-19-2006 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for king Stroke   Click Here to Email king Stroke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you should try a 236/248 duration cam and a victor jr single plane manifold to get more power.

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kid vishus
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posted 01-19-2006 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chevy people say that, but only because they dont have a good 3 speed trans.

The glide will only give more speed in a really light chassis with a big torquey motor. Example; I used to run 357 inch clevelands with a C4. They ran consistantly in the low 6.40's in the 1/8. The motors werent special; 11-1 compression, roller cam, home ported heads, etc. I installed a 402 clevor; 15-1 compression, huge roller cam, professionally ported heads (flow huge numbers), and stuck a glide behind it in the same car (2800 lb w/driver 69 mustang.) The car ran low 6.40's. It took a lot of work for me to make that glide ~work~ in my car (got into the 6.20's consistantly), even with the big motor. And still, I would bet my left kidney if I put my C4 back in it, it would run at least 2 tenths quicker (if the car didnt twist in 2 first.)

With your compression, you need more duration to help bleed off some of it at lower rpm. That cam is too small to work well with that much compression. It would be good for a street car that only has 10-1. Plus, too make your car try and leave slightly faster than a school bus, you will need a loose convertor with the glide, and loose convertors and small cams dont go well together, especially in heavy cars.

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clevelandstyle
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posted 01-19-2006 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clevelandstyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with all the above.
Less weight. More cam(at least 255 @.050") and get rid of the powerslide. C4 will be quicker.

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posted 01-19-2006 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scottford351   Click Here to Email scottford351     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AMEN!
I totally agree also.
Every small block Ive seen changed over to a glide slowed down at least .1 on the motor
It takes big torque to make the glide work.

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king Stroke
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posted 01-19-2006 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for king Stroke   Click Here to Email king Stroke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok i will change it to see what happens
and i forgot to mention i am using 500 shot of nitros.
one of my crew say i should put a super charger with 10 lb boost what u think

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posted 01-19-2006 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clevelandstyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by king Stroke:
i forgot to mention i am using 500 shot of nitros.

HOLY CRAP! Really? 500 shot? That makes a hugh difference!

If you are really shooting 500 and you want more power, something is very wrong with your combo!

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kid vishus
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posted 01-19-2006 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, now I call BS. If you stick a 500 shot on top of that motor, it will lift the heads off, or blow every piston into little pieces. Too much compression and too small of camshaft to try that stunt with.

And there is no way in hell you can put 10 lbs of boost on a motor that has 13-1 compression. You can't put 4 lbs of boost on without it self destructing.

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king Stroke
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posted 01-20-2006 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for king Stroke   Click Here to Email king Stroke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
its just that i the car is a little weak without nitro so i am try to see what i can add to help it get a little more torque

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kid vishus
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posted 01-20-2006 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread has gone from fairly plausible to absurd.

I don't buy any of it anymore.

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king Stroke
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posted 01-20-2006 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for king Stroke   Click Here to Email king Stroke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank guys for u advice i appreciate it i will try them and tell u how it works

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posted 01-20-2006 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JAAZZY     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Add two turbos and a supercharger inline and then hit it with your 500 shot. Use water injection to cool it down.

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king Stroke
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posted 01-20-2006 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for king Stroke   Click Here to Email king Stroke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how much boost and do i have to change any parts on my car

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posted 01-20-2006 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by king Stroke:
how much boost and do i have to change any parts on my car


il play along as well. you need to lower the compression 5:1. to about 8:1. so find the thickest headgasket and buy two sets. stack them on top of each other and this way you dont have to change anything in the motor. just stick the carb bonnet on top and hope for the best I can seea quick 8 somehwere here.

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posted 01-20-2006 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whitson   Click Here to Email Whitson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by king Stroke:
how much boost and do i have to change any parts on my car

Don't worry about that, just push the button and hang on! Parts are cheap. Twin turbo's and a charger will work good with that 500 shot.

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Fastymz
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Are you worried about going faster,or just having more power then the chevy guys?
If you just want to be able to say you make more power then the other guys,then just make it up. Heck thats what most people do at the car shows,and pit area anyways. Tell them you have 1500hp and another 500 shot.
It's cheaper that way too

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quote:
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Don't worry about that, just push the button and hang on!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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posted 01-20-2006 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
need more power...?


answer: Install Big block.


Ex small block racer. and I love small blocks if that is any indicator.

It's like the difference in carrying a .22 pistol and a .45 Thompson machine gun to a gun fight.

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posted 01-21-2006 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More torque? How about this? Yank that smallblock out and stick a 6.0 powerstoke diesel in it. That baby will make more torque than you will know what to do with, and do all of it below 4k rpm.

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posted 01-21-2006 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for king Stroke   Click Here to Email king Stroke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok guy i got a super charger do i still have to change my cam

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king Stroke
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posted 01-21-2006 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for king Stroke   Click Here to Email king Stroke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and i also want to be the fastest small block im my country

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not to be mean, but do you realize no one is taking you seriously? you just told us that you are using a 500 hp shot of N2O on your motor, unless it is made as one solid piece of man made metel we all think your full of horse crap. as previously stated this went from something feesable to a b/s match. personnally i dont think you have any motor for any car b/c your asking about the most deranged setups. but if your serious then cool. do some research here about superchargers and powerful setups.

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Gillis at 18 psi, walbro 255 lph fuel pump, Kirban at 39 psi, 3.73 8.8" rear, rebuilt head, brand new IHI

66 mustang 200ci 3 speed
Holley weber two barrel, msd 6A, 3.5 gears, 3.03 v8 three speed trans.

68 Fairlane 289 w/ auto
rusting away motor is going in the mustang

79 f150 300 3 onda tree
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king Stroke
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look guys i am just want some advise form u ford guys so i can have so idea caz i am just starting in the drag racing business. all the guys i run with have 454 and i have invested to much money to swich so i want ideas to get more power that is all.
i really have a car just a beginner looking for advise so donot be so harsh with me

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posted 01-21-2006 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for king Stroke   Click Here to Email king Stroke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a ford racing block

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f100cleveland
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What kind of car is it in and also, do you have any pics of the car/engine?

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pardon, but i belive i should take on the roll of BS patrol here, please send pictures with someone holding up a sign saying "Mustangs and more rules, and here is my SBF that runs a 500 shot of nitrous" showing the engine in the car.

email pictures to [email protected]

If such an event does not occur or a VERY good reason for it not happening, then i would suggest you find somewhere else to post, because you will probably not be welcome here for much longer if this keeps up.

Thank you, have a good day

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posted 01-21-2006 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by king Stroke:
look guys i am just want some advise form u ford guys so i can have so idea caz i am just starting in the drag racing business. all the guys i run with have 454 and i have invested to much money to swich so i want ideas to get more power that is all.
i really have a car just a beginner looking for advise so donot be so harsh with me

i amnot trying to be harsh just trying to understand the situation. are you really using Dinitrogen monoxide? and if you are what is the real amount you are using?

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88 thunderbird TC 2.3L
Gillis at 18 psi, walbro 255 lph fuel pump, Kirban at 39 psi, 3.73 8.8" rear, rebuilt head, brand new IHI

66 mustang 200ci 3 speed
Holley weber two barrel, msd 6A, 3.5 gears, 3.03 v8 three speed trans.

68 Fairlane 289 w/ auto
rusting away motor is going in the mustang

79 f150 300 3 onda tree
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posted 01-21-2006 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for king Stroke   Click Here to Email king Stroke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am using 300 shot of nitros i am going to take a pic of the car and engine so i will post it for u to belive me

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quote:
Originally posted by king Stroke:
i am using 300 shot of nitros i am going to take a pic of the car and engine so i will post it for u to belive me

ok cool what kind of car is it?

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its a nissan silvia u all can add me at [email protected]

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Go ahead and stick the blower on it with the 500, er, 300 horse shot of nitrous. Make sure on the first pass you spray it with everything it has. Then take pictures of either A: the blown headgaskets, B: the heads lifted off the block, or C: answer B plus the head bolts ripped right out of the block.

I have an idea, trade your 1150 carb for an alchy carb, run 90% nitro AND spray it with nitrous. Yeah, that would be cool.

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posted 01-21-2006 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for king Stroke   Click Here to Email king Stroke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my hrad gasket will not blow cause it is a mildon copper

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posted 01-21-2006 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol i think this thread is done.

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Gillis at 18 psi, walbro 255 lph fuel pump, Kirban at 39 psi, 3.73 8.8" rear, rebuilt head, brand new IHI

66 mustang 200ci 3 speed
Holley weber two barrel, msd 6A, 3.5 gears, 3.03 v8 three speed trans.

68 Fairlane 289 w/ auto
rusting away motor is going in the mustang

79 f150 300 3 onda tree
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I tink King Stroke tis Storkin it..

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How much you wanna bet? I dont care if they are made of freakin titanium. If you add boost to a motor that has that much compression, stuff is going to come apart, period, end of discussion. Either the headgaskets will blow, or the heads will lift off the deck of the block. It's not a matter of what kind of headgaskets you have, it's a matter of too much compression in the cylinder.

What are you, 14? I mean really, you obviously don't have a racecar.
It's obvious to everyone here you have no idea what you are talking about. We forgave the poor english and grammer because we all thought you were really from another country. But now it's evident it's really because you are a juvenile.

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i think ^^^^^^^^^^ knows what hes talking about. Im surprised Alex isnt popping in smilies, laughter faces in here yet.

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88 thunderbird TC 2.3L
Gillis at 18 psi, walbro 255 lph fuel pump, Kirban at 39 psi, 3.73 8.8" rear, rebuilt head, brand new IHI

66 mustang 200ci 3 speed
Holley weber two barrel, msd 6A, 3.5 gears, 3.03 v8 three speed trans.

68 Fairlane 289 w/ auto
rusting away motor is going in the mustang

79 f150 300 3 onda tree
awaiting a new transmission

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anyone think of running his MSN addy to check the profile

I deleted the personal info but oddly enough no mention of this Hot Rod


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This is a "cool" thread. I'll check back in a few days.

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posted 01-22-2006 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scottford351   Click Here to Email scottford351     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/more-power-79418.html

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posted 01-22-2006 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nice spot, i missed that one today

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posted 01-22-2006 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for f100cleveland   Click Here to Email f100cleveland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by trashline:
Im surprised Alex isnt popping in smilies, laughter faces in here yet.


Alex is on his cruise, so maybe, just maybe, this thread will still be going when he gets back in a week to see all the 'progress' we have made

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ok fine if u donot belive me i just wanted some advise i guss i will do what i have to do myself . if any of u hear or know about a car in antigua name black pepper u would believe me. i wanted some adivise did not expect u guys to be so mean
i am out of here

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posted 01-22-2006 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you will read back thru the thread, you will see lots of pople trying to help you. But then things started to get silly and unrealistic. First you said you wanted more low end torque hence the small camshaft. We pointed out the cam was too small to work with that combo. Then at first you claim to have a 500 shot of nitrous. Later it changes to a 300 shot. Quite a diference there. You also tell us how the "all out racecar" weighs 3400 pounds, then later tell us its a Nissan that after a quick Google search, shows there is no way in hell that car could weigh 3400 lbs unless the bumpers are made of solid lead and all the body panels are 1/4" thick plate steel.

And somewhere in all this mess you tell us how one of your ~crew~ members told you to stick a blower on top of your motor. I would fire that idiot right away. Anyone that has the faintest idea of how an internal combustion engine works knows you can not stick a blower on a motor that has that much compression.

The real kicker is this posted on another forum. This illiterate fellow also claims to be from Antigua

"i have a 427w with a dart iron block bored to 4.100 with elbrock super victor jr intake manifold and dart pro 1heads with a holly 1150 car and a 236/248 durattion cam with 1.7 rackers and 500 shot nozzel of nitro. but some peolpe say i should change my cam what you think and what would you recommend to get more power.
my oppents are chevy and call me an under god caz i use ford so i want to put power in my car to give them a run for there money wether big or small block and show them fords kick chevy ***"

Sounds like the same 14 yr old to me. Too bad the motor combo has now changed drastically.

That is why no one believes you. None of what you posted is true.

Have a nice day.

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posted 01-22-2006 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as porky pig would say THATS ALL FOLKS!

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posted 01-22-2006 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for king Stroke   Click Here to Email king Stroke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok i might have over reacted with the weight the truth is that i never weight the car . as the other with the other forum that person is not from antigua i am the only ford here so he is lying besides my car there is all chevy one 350 and the rest 454

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posted 01-22-2006 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bet if we tracked ISP's we would find out differently. I am willing to bet that ISP would be the same as yours, which would make you the same as that fellow, although the motor combo is fairly different. But that just tells me you can't keep your fabrication straight. I mean, you went from a 500 shot in this thread to a 300 shot, so it doesn't suprise me.

We're not idiots. Unfortunately, we were a little gullible at first.

See ya, I'm going back to the real world now where people have real cars, and want assistance with real problems.

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posted 01-22-2006 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for king Stroke   Click Here to Email king Stroke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
fine you donot believe me i going somewhere else

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posted 01-22-2006 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for f100cleveland   Click Here to Email f100cleveland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by king Stroke:
fine you donot believe me i going somewhere else

If you want us to take you seriously like you keep claiming you are, lets see those pics. IF, you can show some proof, you might be able to get some decent answers out of us. But anyone can just make up a combo and say they have it in their vehicle and are racing it. I could try to lead everyone on that I have a nitro burning NHRA funny car engine in my truck, but noone is going to take me seriously. But, if I did actually have it and showed pics, THEN, people would be believers. Just show us some pics and then you'll get decent results, if you are tryin to pull our legs, then we initially fell for it.

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posted 01-22-2006 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so far the only thing you have going for you is that antigua does infact have a 1/4 track

quote:
Originally posted by king Stroke:
fine you donot believe me i going somewhere else

didn't you say that allready

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posted 01-22-2006 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big D   Click Here to Email Big D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd almost think it was Alex,, having fun on his vacation..

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posted 01-22-2006 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for king Stroke   Click Here to Email king Stroke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok add me at [email protected] and u will get the proof

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posted 01-22-2006 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for f100cleveland   Click Here to Email f100cleveland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by king Stroke:
ok add me at [email protected] and u will get the proof

So you are going to email us stuff or talk to you via MSN Messenger?

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posted 01-22-2006 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stewart   Click Here to Email Stewart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Big D:
I'd almost think it was Alex,, having fun on his vacation..

ROTFLMAO!

Now THAT would explain everything!

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posted 01-22-2006 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did infact recieve an e-mail from our frind Joel OMarde here, he did infact send pictures of "A" car, but no engine shots


pictures he sends are from 2 years ago??

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posted 01-22-2006 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He IM'ed me seems like a nice enough guy. He has the Ford motor in a Nissan. He sent me a picture of it. Maybe he just doesn't know how or what to ask.

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posted 01-22-2006 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for f100cleveland   Click Here to Email f100cleveland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dubz:
I did infact recieve an e-mail from our frind Joel OMarde here, he did infact send pictures of "A" car, but no engine shots

pictures he sends are from 2 years ago??

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The sticker on the hood does say 351w. Is there a chance that this is the truth? I'd like to see up-to-date pics that have some type of proof on them from this conversation. But, this is a real good start.

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posted 01-22-2006 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont buy any of it. How about I send a pic of a Ford powered Pro Stock in and claim it is mine?

Way too many inconsistancies in his story to beleive any of it.

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posted 01-22-2006 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He has it all wrong, you have to make up a beliveable story....

I have a problem with my Mustang, it has a 351W, stock cam and springs, 1.7:1 rockers, stock heads w ARP headbolts, 850cfm carb, rpm air gap intake, 200hp shot of nitrous, weighs in at 3200lbs, Hooker ceramic coated headers, run no exhaust piping at the track, and i was wondering if anyone could give me advice of how to get more hp out of it.

Here is a picture of it at the track

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posted 01-22-2006 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clevelandstyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, I've seen that car before. It sounds legit to me. Sorry I can't help. I'm an idiot.

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posted 01-22-2006 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
he may just have trouble communicatating because he isn't from here. just a thought.

could be he "embelished" some. he certainly wouldn't be the first.

if I knew what to tell him to help, I would..... wait I did... buy a big block man, you wont regret it!

it may have seemed like I was joking but umm no I was serious.

if you are out there man and you're legit, post up what kind of time you'd like to run, what it runs now, the weight of the car... suspension mods etcc...

another good small block forum is hardcore50.com those guys are very hardcore small block... heads up mostly.

good luck if you are legit, and if you aren't? hell good luck anyway... no skin off my nose.
later.

PS: you know, no one has ever checked to see if I am telling the truth or not. I mean I could have borrowed that alky injected big block 69 mustang just to look like I fit in... it'd be a lot of trouble but it's possible lol


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posted 01-22-2006 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you guys are wrong to call BS.
Sounds to me like he really is from a foreign country. People there sometimes do funny things because of unfamiliar cars and availability of parts. Using 500hp hit of nitrous isn't any crazier than using a tiny economy car as a tow vehicle for a 4000lb race car on a tandem axle trailer... they do that in England!

There is drag racing in Antigua, link isn't working but check this site...
http://www.trinituner.com/events.asp

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posted 01-23-2006 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check this out... 351C Aussie Falcon in Trinidad.
http://www.trinituner.com/drags/2005/speed-drags28-08-05.asp

I still can't find pictures of Antigua but Trinidad looks like a fun place to race!

http://www.trinituner.com/drags/2005/drags31-07-05-3.asp

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